"Doomed to repeat it" - the History thread

looks right from memory

You’ve gotta admire WA just putting a line down and saying they are done.

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What did Tassie come under before the 1850s? It’s not labelled as a separate entity but has its own colour there. It was the Colony of Tasmania from 1856 until statehood in 1901, but not sure how it was categorised before.

surely it was more the other states just happy to keep them there?

When i first came to Oz, my brother and i went to a school in outskirts of Cowra. Always remember it, Holmwood School. Years 1-3 in another class room and 4-6 in another.

Both were thought by 1 single teacher taking on probably 10-20 students in each class.

Anyway, there used to be a history lesson where our teacher would play the latest episode of Behind the News / ABC recorded on a VHS and after watching there would be a Q/A + Discussion.

I think i was 12 or so at the time,

So, here is a YT vid on this subject from 2014.

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This description of the funeral of William the Conquerer is spectacular:

An even greater commotion blew up when the time came to lay William to rest in his stone sarcophagus. It had been carved when the duke was younger and slimmer, and it proved too small for his immense body. After much effort by the monks to squeeze him into the tomb, his guts burst open in a putrid cascade. The stench surged through the abbey, assaulting the nostrils of the congregation, causing widespread nausea. The abbey was quickly vacated, and the burial of one of the greatest men of the eleventh century was attended only by those clergy prepared to brave the foul smell of his rotting flesh.

(Charles Spencer, ‘The White Ship: Conquest, Anarchy and the Wrecking of Henry I’s Dream’ 2020)

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Don’t make em like that etc etc

The indignity of history… reminds me of the guy who fell off his horse.

The king himself rode a horse and shot arrows at a deer. However, the horse stumbled, causing him to fall off, but he was not injured. Looking around, he said, “Do not let the historians know about this.”[13][b]

— The Veritable Records of Taejong, Vol. 7, article 4

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yeah they do

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Ned Kelly shot Superintendent Frank Hare through the wrist at the start of the seige of Glenrowan and Hare is reported as having said “Good gracious I am hit!”

Can’t help but wonder if a long string of expletives might have been left out of this description during the inquest into the seige :sweat_smile:

I know if I was shot my first words would not be “good gracious!”

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Seems appropiate to post this in here…

Anybody who believed the Taliban when they came out and said that they were more “moderate” are fucking morons. As I (and probably everybody else) knew that they would “appear” moderate for a short amount of time until the dust settled, the coalition withdrew and the workd once again forgot about Afghanistan, left as yet another footnote in world history, and then their true colours would shine. It honestly didn’t take long for them to be the same old cunts they were before.

It’s a right old shame that the Afghan government was just so inherently corrupt, along with its military that they became literal witches hats when the Taliban launched their offensive a few years ago. A couple of mates of mine who served 2-3 tours over there used to say the majority of the ANA couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. There were troops of the ANA who were dedicated to the cause but the inconsistant pay - if any pay at all, and the rampant drug use throughout the military meant that no matter when the coalition withdrew, the Taliban were going to take over again. It wasnt a matter of if, but when.

Shame, it’s a beautiful country, but unfortuantely they’re a complete lost cause. I was all for the rebuilding mission over there, but you may as well have pissed in the wind for how pointless it wound up being.