Squad Speculation Thread 2018/19


#668

We’re not normal… we’re Sydney!


#669

Its a solid 6.5-7/10.

I dont think you can really claim either of Jop or Siem were shockers. Siem was a calculated gamble and sure you can say hes been injured a lot but the club would have been crazy (and we’d probably be on here saying Corica lacked ambition) to turn down the opportunity to give a player of his pedigree an opportunity. Jop came in at 28 and having played a career in Holland also looked great on paper. Similarly De Jong was one of the most talented Aussie players to come through and the club thought he could get him back on track. None of these were poor signings and even the Sir Alex Fergusons, the Pep Guardiolas etc make great signings on paper that dont always work out. Theres no way to predict how a player settles.

Reza looks a great signing, Tratt exceeded expectations and Buhagier looks a shrew signing. Caceres provides depth and an actual option to drop/rotate Brillante or O’Neill if needed and Austin was a cheap option to give us a bit of pace up front. Similarly, Id give Corica points for giving Ivanovic minutes. Hes looking the most promising player to play for us since Gersbach.

Speaking of which Victory announced their ACL squad which means ours should be announced soon. Probably one of the Dutch players to miss out. Was always leaning to Siem but probably Jop.


#670

Obviously SDJ was a gamble that could’ve paid dividends if he’d been fit - but in a salary-capped league, where a good marquee player can be the difference between winning trophies and having an average season, I’m not sure it makes sense to take that much of a risk.

Admittedly, we’ll never know who the alternatives the club was looking at were - but if one was available, I’d certainly have preferred a solid marquee with a history of staying fit to one like Siem, who was something of a Hail Mary - it could’ve worked out amazingly, but it was always a long shot.


#671

Some pretty harsh markers with the benefit of hindsight. We are comparing to last year where we had an amazing run of injury-free games for our key players other than Rhyan. Also, the reason we can even afford marquees is that they all have a big risk - age, form, attitude or all of them. DeJong was playing himself back into full fitness and was hacked from behind while scoring, by one of the league’s hatchet men - couldve been any other striker in that situation. If he wasn’t chopped he might have played as many games as Honda - so was that a dud recruitment?

Jop has been average, but not a calamity - and Won’t be on as much $ as Jordi, so somewhat expected.

DDS everyone expected better from. Austin is a squaddie and a better option than Charles, so plus marks for that…

… and we’ve re-signed our best local players on long term deals, so that’s a big plus too


#672

Yeah I think thats a big testament to the faith of the playing group that Grant and O’Neill were happy to commit.


#673

So what are the rules on cap discounts/exemptions for youth and/or loyalty?
I assume we’d be on those for Grant, Calver. Anyone else? Will Brosque and Milos be on loyalty deals next season?


#674

Milos is a marquee. I dont think Brosque qualifies but Grant would


#675

God I am a dickhead.


#676

Is Milos a marquee going forward or will he be moved in-cap?


#677

https://www.a-league.com.au/salary-cap-system

Homegrown Players – A Club can spend up to a collective $200,000 on 4 Australian Players aged 23 or younger that have come through the Club’s youth system. Any payments to such Players above the $200,000 allowance are included in the Club’s Salary Cap

So that would be Grant, Calver, Ivanovic and Devlin. Take the bottom $200k off.

Loyalty Players – A Club can spend up to a collective $200,000 across any number of Players that have given 5 or more consecutive seasons of service to the Club.

So that would mean Brosque next season, and O’Neill and Milos the year after if, for example, Milos goes back in the cap. No-one else makes the 5 year cut yet.

Mature Age Rookie – A Club can register an Australian Player that is aged 21 or older who last played in an Australian competition (eg. National Premier Leagues) and has not played in a fully professional league for at least 18 months

I don’t think anyone counts here. Tratt wasn’t away from the HAL that long was he?

Scholarship Players – Each Club can contract up to 6 under 20 Australian Players on the national minimum wage. Any payments above the national minimum wage to these Players are included in the Club’s Salary Cap

Not sure how this one interacts with the “Homegrown Players” group. But the other group can include those over 20, so maybe Ivanovic and Devlin come in here. We have a few guys who were 20 at the start of the season, so do they fit in here? (e.g. Buhagiar)


#678

Grant?


#679

Good point. In my mind, he remains a youthful early 20s lad, and so I had him as “Homegrown”, but he’s definitely in the Loyalty group now.


#680

Reza was very high up the list, and I believe we narrowly missed out on Torres (his agent had made enquiries to schools in Sydney).


#681

hehe, yeah, he’s 27, so definitely not eligible for the Homegrown Players concession.

Great breakdown though.


#682

What will change when Milos Ninkovic leaves Sydney FC? Full article here


#683

I’ll tell you what will happen…you’ll see grown men weeping like babes in the street…


#684

Way to rub it in after the last two weeks of results… Thanks The Roar…


#685

Dont fucking do that please. I read that as there was some rumour of him going at seasons end and I was feeling absolutely deflated


#686

Man, reading articles from The Roar is like proof reading a year 10 student’s essay.

In any case, Ninko has spoken frequently about loving Sydney (the city) and the club and his desire to finish his career here. He’s happy, and his family are happy. Hopefully that means he’s not going anywhere.


#687

Wilkinson’s replacement getting lined up already