The Techno Dystopia Thread

Right, so you’re unlikely to get very far using a standard laptop.

I’ve never really paid much attention to it. I know its a big thing, but I’m just a pleb who earns money the old fashioned way.

Current top of the line bitcoin mining farms have a few hundred GPUs running at the same time. It’s also part of the reason that new GPUs are so f*cking expensive

Almost impossible to make money given the price of electricity in AU, and the scale of operations of the professionals is mind-blowing, they literally swarm from country to country chasing the cheapest electricity prices. A number of countries have flat out banned crypto mining because of the impact on their electrical supply (and not wanting anonymous transactions enabled)

BlueSky looking pretty decent so far. There’s even good lists of landfill Maga dross that you can block with two taps.

3 Likes

Yeah most of my feed at the moment is nice landscapes and people’s pets.

Not a million maga idiots screaming.

I got rid of all of the accounts ‘reporting’ on right wing shite, they’re just amplifying the bullshit, cleaned up my feed nicely.

2 Likes

I got rid of the ‘Discover’ feed completely and just rely on seeing who others so far i have followed/followed me have added. And then being ruthless enough to unfollow if i don’t like the posts being produced.

It’s like a second chance at curating your own feed.

1 Like

“We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”

I wonder if Larry thinks this omniscient AI system should apply to him and his ilk

1 Like

Had a look at this new AI from China, can’t exactly see it taking over that much… It’s tanked Nvidia’s stock price to no end (biggest single day loss in Wallstreet history), but the censorship is just mental and definitely not up to date. You ask about Tiananmen Square and it won’t tell you a thing, but if you ask about the tank man or Taiwan, it types a response, before covering it up. Really really weird and not sure what the programmers are even thinking with that…

Censorship aside (which is to be expected), I think the main compelling things about DeepSeek are that it cost a fraction to train compared to OpenAI ($6M vs >$100M) for something approaching “as good”.

From what I’ve read, OpenAI and Anthropic are still clear leaders, but the fact that this rando was able to get so close with a bunch of old chips and not much dough is what’s freaking everyone out.

The other key point is that it’s open source, vs OpenAI being closed source, so you can self-host if you want and no data you give to it leaves your environment.

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.

2 Likes

Yep, they’re just as good despite inferior tech, at a twentieth of the price.

it does raise a question about AI in general though, with how free and open it is. You have DeepSeek that actually influences data, which raises the question on whether other searches are being influenced using the exact same model. Also obviously raises the question with the other AIs being sold

Bit of an explainer here:

That’s hardly a new worry though. Data is always manipulated by the provider. There’s multi billion dollar industries dealing with SEO and manipulation.

Has anyone seen what a modder did with Skyrim and AI? Has a companion that you can adventure with, talk with. It also interacts and remembers your conversation and not just with the two of yuou but all other npc’s you interacted with, killed, stole from etc etc. (Using ChatGPT)

To run it you have top fork out for an AI , like OpenAI other for it to work, but the mod it self is free.

I wonder of DeepSeek can do the same job, since it’s only going to use game lore/environment.

The reason it tanked Nvidia and other related stocks is that it supposedly cost less than 10% to train compared to the equivalent models. So less demand for Nvidias high end products which was essentially whey they’d had such an inflated value.

I think on the censorship stuff, that’s just China. However the other reason for AI types to be enthused there is that it’s open source. So any content filters or what not that are in there can be removed/altered and the model retrained.

Those two things together also open the AI market up to new players who otherwise wouldn’t have the funds to enter it.

At least that’s my laypersons understanding.

Nvidia’s stock tanked because the ongoing compute cost of the AI in terms of GPU’s (which is what Nvidia sells) is less than 6% of it’s competitors, essentially making it 90%+ cheaper to run. Everyone else is going to have to compete with that new benchmark meaning that the billions of dollars of projected high-end AI GPU’s that their stock price was based on, just evaporated. Also because it has far lower GPU demands, plenty of other manufacturers can produce GPU’s for Deep Seek to run on, so not only has 95% of their future AI-driven demand evaporated, they’re going to have to compete on price for the remaining 5%. For me the only thing that’s surprising is that the stock didn’t tank more.

Because Deep Seek is open source code, anyone can see it, use it, evolve it, so Google, Meta, OpenAI and every other AI player will have to match or exceed that efficiency or they’ll be irrelevant. And because it’s open source, any effort to fearmonger about China listening in is easily disproven.

As a bonus, it also makes Trumps promised $500Bn Data centre investment look far, far less useful.

The price will tank further as people’s stop losses start to be triggered more and more.

It’s already rebounding, it’s gained back about 30% of the losses already.

1 Like