"Doomed to repeat it" - the History thread

We have a family photo album on my mum’s side with pictures of Duke Kahanamoku surfing at Manly in it.

My Maternal Grandfather once did an emergency landing in his Gypsy Moth on Henson Park. He was a mechanic and his workshop was on Stanmore Road. It’s now been knocked down and turned into housing. He built the plane himself.

My paternal grandfather was commissioned in WW2 and warned off associating with his known communist BiL. Jokes on you Australian Army, they were both communists! And the first my grandma knew of him being deployed was a picture of him in the paper in the middle east.

How good is Trove?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16986662

I got a score of 2957 on today’s Chronophoto: 17/08/2024
Round 1: 513
Round 2: 708
Round 3: 575
Round 4: 708
Round 5: 453

I got a score of 4182 on today’s Chronophoto: 17/08/2024
Round 1: 708
Round 2: 849
Round 3: 777
Round 4: 924
Round 5: 924

I got a score of 3081 on today’s Chronophoto: 17/8/2024
Round 1: 396
Round 2: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 3: 196
Round 4: 849
Round 5: 640

Fluked a couple.

What would make this game better would be to provide some sort of context about the photo when revealing the answer (where is it, who is in it, what was happening etc.).

If they have the date it was taken, surely they have some other details and they’re not just scraping random pics off the web.

But that picture tells us all that. that’s the game!

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I got a score of 2919 on today’s Chronophoto: 8/17/2024
Round 1: 640
Round 2: 342
Round 3: 575
Round 4: 849
Round 5: 513

Some enjoyable photos today. How sinister does the dude standing behind the girls in the pool look.

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I read a lot of different histories of various times and places, sometimes a specific phrase or paragraph just leaps off the page and makes me feel amazed, or just smile at the way it’s written.

I don’t remember the book this was from but I believe it was talking about the Patagonia Rebelde ( the uprising and violent suppression of a rural workers’ in the Argentine province of Santa Cruz between 1920 and 1922.)

Context is that strike leader Antonio Soto, from a position in the hills, sent down two men to parlay with the man tasked with putting the strike down. This lead to this delightfully described moment.

‘Soto sent two men to Captain Viñas Ibarra to ask for terms. “Terms?” he shrieked. “Terms for what?” and sent them to make terms with Jesus Christ.’

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Dad was part of solidarity while working in a small town with a steel works. He was in charge of pamphlet distribution. His brother was a rusted on communist. One tine. The KGB came through and raided his house. They checked every single item except for a single cake box on top of his fridge that had a whole bunch of Solidarity stuff.

He spent a few months in prison (he thinks his brother gave him up) before being given the option of leaving the country in the 80s. He was given a choice between France and Australia. Initially chose France. But considering the climate, was convinced Australia was the safer option. Got his friends to sell all his stuff before the move, but they never game him the money for it.

Fast forward to 2000. We do a trip to Poland and he decides to forgive his brother. They make up and i finally meet my cousin from that family. The brother died a few months later. If dad hadnt planned the trip and did what he did, he never would have had the chance.

Then in 2010, dad finds out the the KGB agent that was managing his case was an undercover operative working for the Catholic Church. Turns out he’d actually been protecting my dad and could have turned out so much worse

Years

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The wife’s grandma, from what we could piece together, used to live in a part of Lithuania that was then Poland. We think she was very rich as she remembers servants and lands. She remembered Soviet troops crossing a river near her home and taking everything.

Not sure how, but she ended up with the Anders army in Palestine, before transferring to the UK. She spent the rest of the war driving pilots to their planes at an RAF base. One story she told, was she was drunk and drove a bus into a ditch. She convinced an officer shed been feeling feint and had lost conciousness

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I got a score of 3923 on today’s Chronophoto: 17/8/2024
Round 1: 575
Round 2: 849
Round 3: 575
Round 4: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 5: 924

Easily my best score….

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I’ve told most of this story in my ‘getting shit off your chest’ thread where I discussed my biological father.

He grew up for the first 5 or 6 years of his life in Cuba, to Cuban parents who were born in Spain. His parents had fought in the first Cuban Revoloution, and had become aquainted with one Che Guvara.

Anyway, so the Commies win, my biological father is born in '60, and his parents grew disenfranchised with this communist regime, so participated in the Escambray rebellion against them. Shortly after the disaster at the Bay of Pigs his parents were rounded up and thrown in prison. They were to be executed due to their activities, however Che Guevera heard about their arrest and overturned the arrest to a lengthy jail sentence, as they had become good friends with him during the initial revolution. #goodguyche etc.

So my father goes to live with his grandmother, and they feel it’s best that they get the fuck outta dodge, so they flee to Spain. Spain at the time was in a fascist dictatorship- Franco, where they lived for about 5 years. His parents were freed from prison a little bit later and joined my biological father and his grandmother in Spain. However, as it was a facist dictatorship they had moved too, and due to their previous political ideologies, they found it extremely difficult to get work in Spain, and after a few years of basically living hand to mouth, they spoke to some people who knew people who had moved out to Australia. With nothing else to lose, really, they then immigrated to Sydney and settled at first in a migrant hostel in Villa wood.

My father finished his schooling here in Australia, and then moved around a bit for his work - blinds/carpet salesman, lived in Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne, Adelaide and Brisbane.

A few years before I was born 1990 IIRC, his parents decided to be closer to their remaining family in Cuba. With the fall of the Eastern Bloc and communist regimes worldwide collapsing, they figured if they could be in America they could help more refugees and family member s get out of Cuba, so his parents sold their property in Enfield, and moved over to Floria.

A year later, and yours truly is born, and with my mother deciding she wanted nothing to do with my biological father, he decided he’s take a trip to go see his parents in Florida. Sadly his mum had gotten sick, so he wanted to go over there for a few months. A few months after arriving he met his current wife, 6 months later they were married, and 9 moths later popped out their first kid.

Life is fucking interesting. Isn’t it.


My mother came over from England with my grandparents in the early 70s, as 10 pound poms. Hilariously, my Pop has a fear of flying. Two days before they were due to fly out, he decided to sell the plane tickets, and buy boat tickets because he didn’t want to fly out. So a 24 hour journey, took 6 weeks via Spain, South Africa, Perth & Melbourne.

My grandfather was too young to fight in the war, but given he was 15-16 he applied and “served” in the Air Force, but as a bicycle courier.

In 1945 just before the end of the war he was working on a farm alongside captured German POWs - most of them were airforce pilots who had been shot down. These men were obviuously in POW camps, but the good ones were allowed out under military escort to work in the farms. One day he’s working alongside a German and a Ukranian POW. The story so goes that the Ukranian had been forced into the Nazis when Ukraine fell, so he was a “good Nazi”. Neither of then spoke a word of English, and my pop only knew how to say “Fuck Hitler” in German. So naturally he and the Ukranian got along quite well, and he’d smuggle in food for him.

So on this day they’re out cutting hay or something and the German POW fell down, and both my Pop and the Ukranian POW started laughing at him. Anyway, the German took offense to this, picked up the pitchfork that he had been working with and went to go stab my grandfather. The Ukranian got between them and fought the German off, suffering some minor wounds in the process - esentially saving my Pops life. The German POW wasn’t seen around much after then.

A few months after the conclusion of the war, the Ukranian POW was shipped home. My grandfather said that he feared that he would be killed by the Soviets given that he had ‘fought’ for the Germans. And yeah, he tried to track the Ukranian POW down, but didn’t get anywhere at all unfortunately. But my Pop would speak ever so highly of him. “Even though he was a Nazi, he wasn’t a Nazi” he used to say.

Pop never really forgave the Germans.

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Bloody good round today! Even got a full 1000 point round. :grin:

I got a score of 3909 on today’s Chronophoto: 17/08/2024
Round 1: 575
Round 2: 849
Round 3: 777
Round 4: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 5: 708 Chronophoto - Daily

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I am devastated by my piss poor performance on the 1st photo. :sob:

I got a score of 4453 on today’s Chronophoto: 18/08/2024
Round 1: 453
Round 2: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 3: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 4: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 5: 1000​:white_check_mark:

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I got a score of 3543 on today’s Chronophoto: 18/8/2024
Round 1: 575
Round 2: 777
Round 3: 342
Round 4: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 5: 849

thought I’d done well until I saw @hillbilly post

I got a score of 3164 on today’s Chronophoto: 18/08/2024
Round 1: 924
Round 2: 777
Round 3: 242
Round 4: 513
Round 5: 708

My only redeeming score was the 1st pic…

I meant for us plebs who are just wildly guessing.

Clearly that’s not you with todays score, fuck me that’s impressive.

I got a score of 2006 on today’s Chronophoto: 18/08/2024
Round 1: 396
Round 2: 290
Round 3: 924
Round 4: 0​:x:
Round 5: 396

So annoyed. I thought pic 4 was a trick question

Don’t wildly guess!

Today, Pic 1: A hiking scene, The footwear, the bucket hat, the sleeping mat, the hairstyles. They all tell us something. I was out by 8 years.

Pic 2: Flapper dresses. 1920s fashions. I just picked the middle of the range. Not something I’ve studied. Films are the knowledge base here.

Pic 3: The script is Korean or Japanese, probably Korean, but I really need them back to back to tell. The fashion the people are wearing, the Pizza Hut logo, and the biggy, the style of the front end of the vehicle. (I’ve only just noticed it’s a Ssangyong.)

Pic 4: An American soldier (the helmet and webbing), standing in a room with debris and a Maltese Cross in the style the nazi’s used that shoud be hanging from something that’s on the floor with teutonic knight statues in a style of the 20s or 30s. Even ignore the statues. This screams 1945.

Pic 5: A pic of Pelosi clapping at Trump. I googled “Pelosi clapping at Trump”.

These things for me aren’t competition, so I have no issue with googling if I see an easy search term.

it might help to have wide interests, I dunno cause I’ve never not had wide interests.

But I look at these as a way to find out things. Life isn’t a test. We’re not going to end up in an escape room in Saw. I’ve not done an exam in education since my first year of uni. My work doesn’t require me to have a closed book approach to work. Use the resources you have access to to find out the information that you need/want.

So basically you are saying it’s easier if you cheat :joy:

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I may have look at Hillys answers, but initially I though he was talking about the previous day.

Still OK with this. Only out by a few years on a couple of em. The WWII one was the easiest.

I got a score of 3645 on today’s Chronophoto: 18/08/2024
Round 1: 242
Round 2: 849
Round 3: 777
Round 4: 1000​:white_check_mark:
Round 5: 777 Chronophoto - Daily