Everything is on fire - the US politics thread

fair call, although disappointing you didn’t cover the Teutonic Invasion of Norther Europe that led to the eventual formation of the Prussian state :stuck_out_tongue:

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TBF, I did Australian History from 1788 to about WW1 …

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Australian history? Wasn’t that just England, Terra Nulius, Federation, Sorry and we’re here

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In broad brush strokes. yes.

The Treaty of Versailles is also why China is controlled by the Communist Party.

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Get a room farm boys!

Musk is just now blatantly election tampering with X. He’s banning anyone from calling Trump supporters “Wierd” after the latest Democrat campaign. He’s also taken down the group “White dudes for Harris” after they raised $4 Mill in a very short period of time

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The man that pays the piper calls the tune. :wink:

Getting closer to a marvel-esque villain every day.

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Libertarians. They’d be the absolute fucking worst, except that we have evangelicals too

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OK, for my third and final conspiracy theory, as he used to be mates with Ghislaine and he’s always had those really “off” vibes, I reckon there is Kompromat and Trump has it after his White House bumped off Epstein.

I actually think Musk is being “smart” here and understands his personal fortune will be protected if Trump gets in rather than Harris

Hes also just supposedly always on Ketamine right? Would explain why he can barely speak in any public setting.

If it was pure money (plenty of other billionaires and media moguls have that same motivation) then he wouldn’t have lit $40+B on fire buying Twitter and burning it to the ground. A Republican White House ain’t saving him what he’s already pissed away.

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Plus Trump and the republicans are not friendly to his primary business interest.

I genuinely think hes just an ultra rich version of a 4chan troll who does this shit because hes a fuckwit. There are no Machiavellian schemes behind his actions.

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I remember he used to self describe as being centrist or having no particular alignment. And there is definitely nothing to counter that except just about every single thing he’s done or said in the past few years since he’s become a properly public figure. based on that I’d lean towards the “he’s just a fucking extremist shit cunt” side of the argument. I think I’ll get my daily doses of Fesshole from somewhere else - that’s all about all that twitter was good for these days.

Musk loves free speech if it’s denying the holocaust or using the N-word. Criticising Trump? Beyond the pale.

I cant believe that in 2024 Twitter is playing anywhere near the role it has previously (i.e. 2016) - Trump isn’t on there and Harris supporters are leaning into memes on TikTok as their ground game. Sure there will be people on Twitter playing the us v them game and even senior people from each side will use it to put their argument forward - but is it a platform where the undecided are going to be going to make their minds up - not sure it is

That they’re on TikTok doesn’t mean that that’s the only thing they’re doing. They’re about to go on air with TV ads again at the end of this week, which is going to be important, but the bigger thing is that the Biden campaign has had a lot of money for a long time, and a big money advantage over Trump for ages. They’ve leveraged this by having field organisers on the ground in all the swing states for months. Those organisers are still there - the field offices are staffed up and going hard.

For a long time Trump had no on-the-ground organisation and no ad spends in a lot of swing states, and that organisation is probably the reason why the gap between Biden and Trump wasn’t bigger. They’re going door to door, they’re on phones, they’re holding events and they’re doing a lot of ‘relational organising’ (training people to have meaningful and influential conversations with people they know rather than convincing strangers) - there’s a shitload going on on the ground.

Because of this, they’re now already staffed up and ready to press home a new and more exciting candidate. Voters are Kamala-curious and there are organisers on the ground helping voters to find out more.