Everything is on fire - the US politics thread

Sorry, I’m not au fait with the angle it no longer constitutes a nazi salute, but like porn, I know it when I see it. He knew exactly what he was doing and exactly the reaction it would provoke. I can’t wait till he gets thrown to the wolves when the rest of them tire of his bullshit.

Edit: There’s no mistaking this,

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he’s got a White House office, and email address and Vivek Ramaswamy is stepping aside so he has full control of DOGE…

He’s also got a shelf life of about 3 months, Trump cannot stand anyone who doesn’t grovel to him or who takes attention away from him.

First one is a bad look and second one is proper nazi form.

I look forward to our opposition leader, protector of Jews, immediately hitting all media to condemn this show of antisemitism, as always

The ADL has already come out stating that they should give him the benefit of the doubt… fucking hell.

Trump has now officially pardoned all the Jan 6th rioters… Im guessing he needs to build up a base for a potential coup after the 4 years is up?

Shocked that a notorious far-right agitator would do such a thing, and then hide behind deniable plausibility.
Such a thing has never ever happened before.

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I think you may be misreading the situation for the following reasons;

  • Overload and misdirection. We are talking about this (the Nazi salute) and not more serious matters like the hundred odd EOs Trump just signed and their implications. I think what Musk did was deliberate but the purpose was to deflect away from what Trump is doing on his first day not to promote the far right (though it does that as well).

  • Disruption. Like many managers who cannot claim a management position based on talent, Trump games the system to maintain authority. He actively encourages all those working for him to argue and bicker with each other. Whilst Miller and Musk and Bannon are tearing each other down they are not tearing Trump down, and at the end of the day Trump gets to resolve any dispute thus making him look more reasonable than the squabblers and demonstrating his authority.

  • If Trump got rid of Musk he would have to find another Musk to replace him. No other billionaire is as dependent on government contracts as Musk.

I think you’re giving them WAY too much credit if you think they got Musk up there to do a Nazi solute so no one would talk about the EOs. Especially when you look at the fact that Elon is 100% pushing extreme right wing groups throughout the world. It’d be more likely that he has some sort of dream that he takes over the government and saves the world from Trump.

While you’re not wrong about the management and the need for Musk, the problem is that you have two people that 100% think they’re above the government. Musk needs the government less than he feels the government needs Musk. Think about DOGE, he’s acting like some superhero swooping in to save the government from his own spending, despite the fact that he’s continuously shown some pretty bad management skills, only winning after gambling, in the knowledge that a loss would still mean he’s rich

I reckon you’re vastly overestimating Trump.

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People in the US are saying their facebook pages have automatically added Trump and Vance to follow

At least Hitler had his clothing properly tailored.

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He’s also reportedly said that it doesn’t matter if China gets info from Tik Tok as it’s only kids that use it…

Yeah Hitler did it better…

ExtuHt

Hitler did it without this face.

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It’s also not a Hitler Salute.

He’s just letting his Beyblade rip. :wink:

There was footage of him gurning to hell at the event as well. It’s beyond anything a satirist could come up with.