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And Derozan off to Sacramento.

Bulls fans seem split on what they got back. As per normal …

They should be happy with what they got, considering he wanted out. He seems like the kind of player who would be an absolute prick about it too…

They’re reddit still has people complaining about Giddey.

By this stage, they may all be institutionalised whingers that have come to accept that they got very, very lucky with Jordan and Phil Jackson.

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How to make the US National Team even more unlikeable?

Add Joel Embiid to the lineup…

Also, terrible squad selected by Australia for the Olympics…

Excluding Thybulle and Cooks, but including Dellavedova is head scratching…

I reckon we’re going to struggle against Canada, Greece and Spain in the pool matches, and if we make it to the quarters, I don’t see us going much further…

We have an exhibition game against the US next week, so will be an interesting test.

It’s just going to be the LeBron show… surprised Bronny didn’t get a call up….

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Cause it’s still 2015 in some people’s heads!

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In my quest to find more youtube content I’ve found some absolute dross. Which includes basically anything covering the WNBA/Clark saga.

But this was quite good and it’s topic is @Factor’s favourite former Wolve!

I have an occasional thought pattern that as NBA players make generational wealth rather easily, they don’t need to sign max deals thus opening up the ability to build team depth down to 9-12 players.

In the wake of Brunson’s contract extension (which is contextual) this got asked in r/NBATalk.

The responses seem to explain to me that there’s a completely different philosophy in play to mine and also Redditors even in a fairly intellectual thread suck at context.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBATalk/comments/1e3731n/why_dont_more_star_players_take_massive_pay_cuts/

Box score from this mornings Olympic warm up v USA.

From what I’ve read (haven’t watched the game or any highlights) we turned it over a tonne (Patty Mills looks to have had a shocker), then we went more full court pressure in the second and caused a heap of US turnovers (they had 18 to our 13), but we went down by 6 in the end.

Giddey seems to have done well with 17/8/7 from 27 minutes, but FG% was pretty low, at 39%. Landale with a game high 20 points, shooting 75% from the field.

We play Serbia tomorrow at 2am, which I think is our final pre Olympics hit out before our first game against Spain on July 27.

The Suns sub has a few posts about missing Landale and the Bulls sub was hopeful about Giddey.

There was also some observation in the Suns sub about the Boomers system being simple and superior to Iso ball. They may be becoming aware.

An 84-73 win over Serbia this morning.

Patty with a far better performance, putting up 28 points, shooting 54%, 10/11 from the line.

Still alot of turnovers, 17, with Giddy giving up 6.

Jokic with another triple double, but only 14 points. If only the NBA was officiated to the same rules as FIBA and foul baiters like Jokic didn’t get to the line as often (he only had 3 FTA).

USA v Serbia to finish the round robin.

I think you read defensive rebounds and total rebounds as rebounds and assists.

NBA could definitely use going closer to FIBA rules.

I’m far from an NBA expert, but that would surely be (at least partially) down to showing their status in a squad or the organisation in general. Let’s say Stephen Curry takes a $27.5m deal for this year, half from his actual $55m that he’s getting this coming season. What guarantee does he have that the remaining $27.5m will actually be spent on bench players/squaddies? What guarantee that other key players there don’t want all of the remaining $27.5m?

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On the flip side, Tom Brady spent years at the Patriots taking far less than his equals across the league in order to ensure that his playing group was as strong as it could be… this attitude then went through the squad with players like Gronk, Edelman etc prioritising winning over maxing their deals.

Most high-end achievers don’t think like that. Most equate salary to worth. Annual wage becomes a pivotal measuring stick, like any other major statistic. Athletes are triggered by the notion of disrespect, and money often becomes a minefield of hurt feelings. It’s why Alabama head coach Nick Saban has a clause in contract guaranteeing him the average salary of the top three highest-paid SEC coaches. It’s not that he needs the money. It’s because money matters most at the very top.

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Oh, it’s entirely down to status.

It’s why I have this bit in my post.

They’re looking at it entirely differently to how I intellectualise about it and how the OP in the reddit post posited the idea.

Civilisation is marked by the ostentatious display of wealth. And Pro Athletes have this in drove. Look at the level of interest in their pre-game “drip”.

The vids I’ve seen on this from ex players is all about the ranking with their peers, not the on court success.

And it’s very apparent that a lot of the player base see the NBA as a cash cow and nothing else.

Why no faith in fellow man? It’s obvs not something you just do. There needs to be discussion and some faith.

This gets brought up in these discussions. In a negative manner. I just looked at his record. 3 titles in his last 5 seasons at NE seems to say it was a good idea from a sporting perspective and I’m sure he aint short of a buck.

Another good performance from the Boomers. I didn’t expect much form this Olympics but they are building nicely. Should actually be a great tournament with the US looking a little vulnerable