It's OK to be White and other dogwhistles - the Australian politics thread

There’s a nice Chrome extension called “Control Panel for Twitter” which gives you the experience best tailored to annoy Elon. No X logo. No trends. No tampered feeds fed by poisonous algorithms, just the timeline.
I personally don’t mind having the trends, but otherwise this works well.

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I’m sort of incline that way but I also kind of think that he’s so arrogant that it’s easily believable that he thought he could walk in make whatever changes pop into his head and they would work because he’s a genius™.

Anyway sorry didn’t mean to derail the aus politics thread with discussion of twitter itself!

That sounds amazing. Whenever I open it, it’s in a browser (usually on my phone) which makes navigating anything almost impossible.

Dutton said the Coalition would soon reveal the “potential host sites” for six nuclear energy plants.

Anyone want to take a guess at where the plants wont be?

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I’m more inclined to think that the majority will be in National Party held seats. They’d be putting them away from most major centres so that would rule out Liberal and the vast majority of Labor seats.

The only Labor seat you would almost guarantee would get one would be Hunter. You’d think that the MEU would actively be seeking one on behalf of their members who will lose their jobs when the coal industry (power) closes down.

It would be funny if they said that they’re putting one in the seat of Melbourne, just to see Adam Bandt’s reaction.

Im not sure though. Can’t see that many seats held by the Nationals actually wanting a Nuclear Power Plant in their backyard.

The world’s going to be baked before they even get built.

20-30 years too late.

Is this till the modular tech that doesn’t work yet?

Multiple reports are also strongly suggesting that we need more energy reserves in the meantime. Nuclear power is not going to save us from that crisis.

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The only reason they want nuclear, is that their mining buddies can dig stuff up to sell.

Can’t sell the wind and sun.

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The thing that gets me is that it is so obvious thats the case, but people seem to be genuinely falling for it. I am just curious how they will go about selling it when they have to annoucing some, or any, detail.

Surely they have to at some point… right?

At the very least it would have to be costed if they are taking it to the election as a policy. I can see them holding off on suggesting actual sites.

Really? Who’s falling for it? most people outside of the right-wing media circus seem to be entirely dismissive of it.

Members of the general population listen to the right wing media circus though.

huh? They’ll make more money selling it overseas than they would selling it internally. Creating Nuclear Plants here would actually force them to keep some over here for cheap rather than selling it for an exorbitant price in Europe

See also: Gas, Liquid Natural

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Where would you place them?

The vast majority of vacant land falls in Nationals seats.
While I agree that that there’d be a sizeable portion of most of them being against it, the opposition to CSG is a good example, no one really stands to lose their land to it.
Farmers are against CSG because of the damage it could do to the water table and water quality. Put a reactor on the outskirts of town and I don’t know how much opposition there’d be.

The biggest issue would be finding people to work there. You’re asking a very specifically skilled workforce to move to the middle of nowhere. There’s no one hanging around in small country towns waiting for the nuclear industry to wander on in so they can get their dream job.

I’m pretty sure you have to build it near a water source, so it you have to build it near the coast.

Also I love how nuclear power is a “clean power” and people conveniently forgetting about the nuclear waste that toxic for a shit load of time.

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The nuclear waste is fairly well contained though. It is technically a green power as it doesn’t produce any major emissions. If you really want to go down that track, there literally no such thing as clean power because everything creates pollution to produce it in the first place. One nuclear power plant creates 3 cubic meters of waste a year. That’s not a huge amount and, considering the size and sparsity of our population, it wouldn’t be too hard to store.

I mean logically you put it near the outback, but you can’t have it too far from major cities as you’d have to invest huge infrastructure to get the power to where it’s needed.

In terms of workforce, it’s going to be ridiculously hard in general. I’d assume the vast majority of skilled workers will come from overseas, until we develop our own internal capabilities. It won’t be ridiculously hard as you’re promising pretty decent pay for stuff like that. They manage to do it all over the world.

That’s what they told us about getting doctors out here.

At our medical centre you don’t even get the choice of your own GP now.

I wouldn’t be opposed to nuclear power, so long as they store the nuclear waste at somewhere like Vaucluse or Toorak.

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