Round 23 - Sydney FC vs Wellington Phoenix

Can anyone more in the know tell me if we get training compensation if Sega goes to another league on a free? Or does it have to be a transfer?

Has anyone actually confirmed how much Burgess is on?

Also while I’m not really into spreading rumours, Anas not even making the bench on the same day we’re wearing our Pride jersey could have a link. It’s not like highly religious players haven’t refused to play in Pride games before.

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I’m on the first carriage of the Uffy Out train but seems some faux outrage / clickbait over that post-match interview. All he said was that Sega was a little high and that he wanted some more action between the lines, which is where Dougie lives, so he brought Dougie on for him. Didn’t exactly hang the kid out to dry.

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Everyone’s getting a bit hysterical about last night. It was disappointing, but hardly a dismal outing given the conditions just 72 hours after a high pressure match in also difficult conditions. I was struggling to just sit and watch the game, barely enough energy to muster applause. Thankfully those “Goal” cardboard fan things could be used to make a very noisy and irritating clapping replacement sound without the need for the same energy demanded from clapping. I was like an annoying child with a loud obnoxious toy for the night. Anyhow, upshot is, those were absolutely shocking conditions and we still did create a bunch of chances.

Subbing Sega that early was mad but.

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The official currency of SFCU. So much wild overreaction and hyperbolic guesswork in response to the slightest negative setback.

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There have unfortunately been about 50 slight setbacks this season sadly, which have cumulatively seen us fall outside the top 6 with the most talented squad in the league. And time is running out.

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Granted that, but it’s also led us to the semi-final of the ACL2 which isn’t exactly the worst trade-off, especially financially. From what i’ve gathered through Chat GPT, teams don’t win any extra money as Premiers or Grand Final winners?

But very unbalanced, particularly early on in the season. The defensive cover was terrible. We were relying on youngsters at CB, then lost one of them. Despite those mitigating circumstances though, I am not alone on being completely bamboozled by some of the decisions Uffie has made with how and where he has deployed his defensive options. It doesn’t mean he is wrong, but we don’t get to see what happens at training, what the stats on players physical performance are (e.g. maybe Grant really can’t play RB any more, maybe JCP is a nightmare at CB although he looks to have perfect physical attributes for it) so we can just pontificate and be perplexed by some of these choices.

Absolutely. Last night would have seen us really put pressure on the six. Now it’s all on us, particularly those two H2Hs against the loveable CFG mob. Unfortunately we also need to play the top two.

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I’d honestly be surprised if he’s on as much money as some people here seem to assume.

He only had two “real” A-League seasons (plus the one he sat out) before joining us.

In that time he only made a handful of starts (7) for Wellington, came off the bench for Tarneit almost as often as he started (14 starts/11 bench in the league), and same with in his first two seasons through his contract extension date (22 starts/16 bench in the league).

Never made an A-League TOTY, or bench, or a Socceroo extended squad.

And would’ve put a lot of other teams off by sitting out a season to go home to Sydney.

I don’t see how anyone could think he’s on a top-tier domestic cap salary?

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So they can be outraged at why he’s not being played, because Talay has to be the villain in every story.

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Whether it’s $250k or $350k (my assumption would be it’s somewhere in the middle of that), it’s still a complete waste of money objectively, no matter who’s fault it is or who you blame. The guy has barely played this season.

And if you read posts above, no-one is really blaming Talay for that directly, the initial post was a vague ‘you can’t really do that’ which is absolutely bang on, to have hundreds of thousands of dollars of salary cap sitting on the bench (or actually not even warming the bench at all now) is a disaster, whether it is the players acting up or the coach mismanaging them, and it has no doubt cost our team where ideally we could have used that, including a foreign spot, on either one or two CBs, or a CB and a right back, or even a GK.

And what I 100% will defend Talay on, is that Ouahim had been dogshit for months before seemingly getting scrapped, and it’s not even ‘he’s played out of position’ excuse that really cuts it imo, he seems to have had trouble passing/controlling the ball - the most basic stuff at this level really.

Think the biggest issue from yesterday was just the lack of rotation. Players didn’t look great in the first half and felt buggered on the ball. Conditions very difficult of course, but another example imo of Talay and the squad not backing up after ACL2.

Thursday was a chaotic match they put their all into, odd to me you wouldn’t rotate more for a Sunday match.

Would’ve preferred seeing Quintal/Kucharski/Sega start and give the likes of Patty, Costa, and Lolley minutes off the bench.

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My assumption would be more like $150k…

He;'s never been a nailed-on A-League starter. He’s not getting 10-20% of the total salary cap.;

It’s not what he said but what he did.

You have a club that is ostensibly supposed to be developing youth, a young player (clearly our best prospect this season) champing at the bit for starts - you give him one and he hands you your opening goal - and then you hook him at half time, to bring a senior player on out of position?

That’s fucked, dude. And where did it get us? We were worse after Segecic came off! Talay has to be better than that. I simply cannot believe that Sega is beyond taking instruction and if he is you have to leverage him (and the rest of the squad) in a way that promotes (markets, really) his talents and wins us games.

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That’s so low you’d question why he has stayed a footballer. It surely cannot be that low.

Calling one player benched ‘a disaster’ is exactly the kind of hyperbole I was talking about. You’re also, IMO, overpricing and overrating the value of a squaddie who has never consistently produced for any of his teams despite flashes of brilliance.

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That’s close to minimum wage isn’t it? I think median wage is ~200k? I’d have thought he’d be above that, for sure. He was well sought after when he was at Western.

Edit: talkin bout over 21y/o players.

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Surely someone here still has Lou Sticca’s number and can find out.

That’s close to minimum wage isn’t it?

My understanding is that it’s around the $90k mark for non-scholarship players.

If a club was to spend the floor ($2.25m) on the minimum squad amount of players (18) with no exclusions it would average out at $125K per player.

I can’t see that being close to the min salary allowed.

Minimum wage was $64k+super when the salary cap was $3.2m before the Fox rug pull. It wouldn’t be significantly more now that the salary cap is down to $2.6m.

We don’t know for sure because that’s all top secret under APL.

And again, the cap is $2.6m. Most clubs aren’t going to be maxing out cap exemptions while they’re haemorrhaging money.

Median for the league would surely be low to mid $1xx,000s based on mathematical necessity.

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