Rugby Union Thread

Union in Ireland is almost entirely the preserve of the private schoolboy, always has been

Wales take Australia to the cleaners…

Wallabies out at the group stage for the first time ever…

Apparently Eddie Jones has interviewed for the Japan job.
Australian Rugby is a bigger shitfight than Australian soccer.

The delusions of grandeur are somehow both unsurprising and yet still embarrassing. We’ve been well off the pace for years, and took (seemingly deliberately) a young squad with an eye on the next (home) World Cup. Yet everyone in the RU media carries on like we should have been looking to go a long way in this, or somehow like win (or at least make a good fist if it) and that having all the same problem we’ve had for literally years is some kind of shock. Anyone even semi watching the team (I’m a layman but have quite enjoyed for years sitting with the old guys at the local bowls when games are on for the beers and chats) knows this is exactly where they’re at. Jones might be good or bad but there’s very little anyone can do when we don’t have remotely the cattle or base to turn things around.

I coached football in the Private school system in Sydney for years and in most or all of the major rugby schools, numbers turning out for football had surpassed rugby everywhere by 2013. Islanders out west like rugby but can make a lot more money for their families playing league. It’s a downward trend, there is almost literally no way to reverse it. We’re a 2nd tier/minnow now and short of the NRL imploding somehow, that won’t change.

The Private school boys and girls graduating now are football people more than rugby, twenty years from now when they’re making the sponsorship decisions etc on the boards they’ve inherited Union is done.

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They just plain sucked. I’ve seen teams suck before but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

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We might have to resort to the old chestnut of throwing money at some great NRL players again

Rugby needs to bite the bullet and follow the football model in Australia of letting players play in Europe without impacting their chances of playing for the Wallabies. Have a modest domestic competition with the aim of developing youngsters but ultimately our players will only become world class if they are competing against the best in France and England.

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The problem is that the overseas clubs only want developed players, they won’t invest in our young players. We can’t develop the next generation because of all the reasons mentioned above.

At least in football the club and international game is separate, so we’ll still have players that fall through our many cracks that find their way back.

Rugby is Australia is in big trouble which is a real shame. There is enough sporting prowess in this country to go around if managed properly, but when the international game drives the revenue, we were bound to fall behind eventually

Portugal beat Fiji by a point so it isn’t enough to save the Wallabies.

Quarter finals:
Wales v Argentina
Ireland v New Zealand
England v Fiji
France v South Africa

Je Suis Fijian

How lopsided is the draw? Ireland’s reward for topping the group is a date with the All Blacks, Likewise France and South Africa.
England and Wales have a stroll in the park by comparison

Someone today said the draw was done back in 2020, so doesn’t account for the next 3 years of where teams end up form wise. Seems a bit naff.

Sensational game of rugby this morning. Both teams just giving it all, arm wrestle the entire way.

South Africa the champions.

Not a great match, but was tense.

Ruined by the ref and TMO. Very tense I’ll agree.

Christie kicking away possession on halfway a dumb decision with less than 10 to go. Should have been trying to continue moving into drop goal range or getting a penalty. Jordie missing the penalty didn’t help.

Barnes/TMO miss Etzebeth’s forearm to the face in a tackle, Kolisi’s yellow staying a yellow. Given how much the TMO interjected at other points is unforgivable (considering it was for knock ons of all things).

Apparently South Africa have won 4 World Cup finals now, and failed to score a try in 3 of them!

Apart from the International aspect, give me an average game of League any day

They won the quarters, semis and final by 1 point each

Man seems to be at an angle, making clear mitigating circumstances, and therefore should’ve stayed yellow

Correct. Also no HIA so clearly was not a high degree of danger. See below link, there was mitigation and it wasn’t intentional so it’s a yellow. They deemed there was no mitigation strangely.

Now Kolisi had a shoulder charge (intentional act regardless of how you look at it - he flew in there and didn’t wrap the arms), and also made contact head on head. Which should have been a red.

Etzebeth’s forearm to the head https://twitter.com/sofianbl/status/1718356061956997298

TMO doesn’t interject on this one - but will bring play back for a knock on 8 phases earlier. It’s bewildering.

They should reset the clock if they are going to take play all the way back like that - you’ve wiped out a chunk of rugby in the process.

agree. As my friend said during the game… the TMO is enjoying his screen time - he even put on a suit and tie for the occasion

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