Sigh - the NSW politics thread

Never said they weren’t, just argued that the claim that they’re responsible for 1/4 of animal extinctions since recorded history started was total bullshit and it is.

My cats have a run, I own my home.

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reptiles, birds and mammals are not the only animals and 1600 isn’t even close to the start of recorded history.

These numbers do not make sense to me, are they saying that only 81 species of mammals have gone extinct globally in the past 425 years and 42% of them were in Australia?

I struggle to believe the number of mammal extinctions is that small globally.

EDIT: And yet Wikipedia seems to back up your data, I’m shocked, but better informed now.

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Blink thrice if a cat has a gun to your head right now.

I think what everyone is forgetting is both dogs and cats have been introduced and domesticated in this country.
There’s no more native cats since we killed off the Thylacine.
The dingo is our native dog yet that’s the one most people see as a pest.

There’s a big argument happening up here at the moment about wild dogs/dingoes and their impact in the environment.
Farmers hate them because they kill cattle.
Environmentalists like them because they kill deer and wild pigs.

Not for one moment have I seen anyone finding a positive in cats in regards to environmental impact.

My cat is very good at eradicating the local cockroach and spider population.

I encourage her to continue to keep our house spider and roach free.

Just this evening a 8-legged cunt made the mistake of entering our bathroom.

That 8-legged cunt is now regretting its decision. I thought she might eat the bastard, but she decided playing keep uppies with it was her entertainment for the night until she got bored and decided to join me on the couch.

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Millions of years of independent evolution, then tens of thousands of years of stable indigenous land management, have been overturned in 250 years. We’ve done a proper number on the place.

There were mammalian extinctions when humans first entered the continent (and same for the Americas) and there’s debate what mix of overhunting by people and the later introduction of dingoes should account for that. You can see that, in those thousands of years, the native species that survived have co-evolved to survive alongside the dingo, and maybe the same thing will happen with feral cats, but not before we lose a hell of a lot of marsupials.

If you think about it, proper human expansion has only really been around during the industrialization as cities and communities spread and we suddenly started wiping out entire habitats that could contained vey localized animals. The biggest effects generally occur in island locations where you have animals like the Dodo and Tasmanian Tiger that have a very constrained habitat and don’t generally have natural predators or competition for resources. Introducing new species into these small environments will generally have the greatest affect.

It’s only really been the past 150 years in which humans have rapidly expanded and required more room, resources etc and properly started competing the wildlife. Extinction previously hasn’t exactly been a quick process, although lately it’s definitely increasing speed.

The exception being megafauna, which disappear around the same time as human habitation in the archaeological record.

You do know that Huntsman spiders will kill cockroaches and other spiders, yeah?

Your cat is an introduced pest, the spider is not.

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Apparently dogs were domesticated by near Eastern hunter gatherers at the same time the goat was domesticated as well & cats were domesticated about the same time as mankind started planting crops because they were attracted to the rats that were eating them ( the crops ).

My parents used to tell 8yo me this when one was perched up high on my bedroom wall (although it was mosquitoes that said huntsman was going to protect me from). Didn’t sleep a wink. I also couldn’t fathom how a spider on a wall could catch a flying mosquito without jumping through midair, and obviously landing on me sleeping below.

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Nothing needs 8 legs. Fucking nothing.

If I see one, I will use a war crines amount of Mortein on the fucker.

How about no legs?

Nothing better vermin control than a python in the rafters.

Had a huntsman run up my wall and across the roof as I was going to be last night.

Good hunting to the not so little guy.

My anaconda dont
My anaconda dont
My anaconda dont want none unless you got buns hun.

Snakes dont bother me too much, unless they’re poisonous and then well I start getting Samuel L Jacksony on a plane.

Probably best not to eat them then.

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Anyone wondering why country people don’t vote for Labor have a look at Chris Minns performance throughout the Broken Hill power outage.
I voted for Janelle Saffin in Lismore at the last State election because as a flood affected representative she could bring a positive change. Labor has ignored her.

It took Chris Minns 2 weeks to get out to Broken Hill. Guaranteed that wouldn’t have happened if there was a week long power outage in Sydney.

Hot on the heels of Norco losing the milk contract for the local hospitals to Bega Cheese (Fonterra), now a local butcher has lost his contract to supply Lismore Hospital that he’s held for over 30 years. Richmond Waste has also lost their contract with the hospital.

The meat contract has gone to 2 Sydney meat suppliers (Dick Stone & Indigenous Meat Co) and Makani Meats from the Southern Highlands. None of these companies source their meat from the Northern Rivers unlike the Lismore butcher, Hutley Brothers.

Richmond Waste lost the contract to Cleanaway (Suez) so, as with the Norco case, the local company loses out to a foreign owned entity. Instead of the profits being put back into the local area they’re going into the pockets of shareholders or sent offshore.

I don’t think it’s too much to ask for local companies to be preferred for these contracts.

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That’s fucked

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The thing is that is is too much to ask most people. They’ll take the tax cut and/or condemn the government for ‘poor management of the budget’ every time.

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And complain about wasting public money with dodgy deals - “is someone in the LHD copping a backhander?”