Israel v Everyone - M.A.D or Peace in the Middle East?

At this point, there seems to have been more casualties in a gun and knife attack in Jaffa than a missile attack by Iran.

the bastards… that is NOT how this war is being fought

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No wonder israel considered it an unsuccessful attack.

All videos ive seen show maybe 1 in 10 getting intercepted.
This one’s pretty crazy
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good luck shooting down hypersonic missiles

That’s pretty crazy, but if that many hit - Israel would be lucky to cover up such a thing if they are saying otherwise?

If they’re anything like Russian hypersonics…

Mind you, I guess thats the reason Russia’s getting them from Iran.

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They apparently hit military targets, so would be very easy to cover up, especially if soldiers were in bunkers. Would be more infrastructure hits

Friends in East Jerusalem have shared rooftop pics (yes, Palestinians flock to the rooftops whenever rockets are falling, they have no sense of self preservation). Iron Dome is definitely making some intercepts. They are probably concentrating on defending populated areas, since that’s been the primary target historically, so military bases may not have been covered so much.

Well I stand corrected, this sure seems to be the case.

So iron dome apparently calculates if a rocket will hit a populated area and only shoots if it confirms. I would assume military would also be covered. This just looks like a change of tactics. Before they attacked the whole of Israel whereas this looked like it was all targeted on one area

This is pretty crazy, I’d love to know if you could program their attacking missile with waypoints to make a last second change of course.

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This is …

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Most of the footage I have seen appears to be from near around the Nevatim Airvase.

A lot of the incerepts seem to be from other areas, but the Nevatim airbase took a lot of hits from missiles, and seem to be the target of many of the hypersonic missiles.

Nevatim Airbase is the home to the bulk of Israels F-35s. Iran is claiming they’ve destroyed a lot - upwards of 20. All unverified but im sure that the runways will be out of commission for a few days at least. I would assume Israel would keep most of their aircraft in reinforced or even underground bunkers - something the Russians haven’t learned.

The Israeli government has censored a lot of information around the attacks, and I suspect casualty rates perhaps even at the military base could be rather substantial as a result.

As for Israels air defence systems - Iron Dome & Arrow 3 - they’re good don’t get me wrong, but they’re going to suffer the same restrictions and short comings as any air defence system would, they’re vunerable to mass attacks.

Up until this year, all they’ve faced are slow-moving rockets that come out of Gaza and occasionally Southern Lebanon. Those rockets aren’t exactly the pinnacle of missile technology. In addition, they’ve had barrages of limited amounts, maybe a handful of time they’ve fired over a dozern at a time.

Each Iron Dome battery holds 20 rockets. When waves of 100 or more are launched, it’s not going to take long to deplete a battery, and thats why its selective in shooting down which rockets are deemed to hit populated areas.

It’s not like they’re going to have trucks waiting next to the launchers to re-load them either.

That’s kinda obscenely quick …

3.2 miles per second

Iran’s hypersonic missile, the Fattah, reportedly has a range of 1,400 kilometers (870 miles) and can reach speeds of up to Mach 15 (5.1 kilometers or 3.2 miles per second) before striking its target.

There would be nothing yeah?

It seems there are a few potential defenses against them but I’d say it would be very difficult if faced with stopping hundreds of such weapons at once. Maneuverability of hypersonic missiles also presents a problem for defensive systems.

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The Ukrainians are doing well enough against Russian ones. They’re using Patriots that were previously thought to be completely ineffective against hypersonic missiles

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Hypersonic is mach 5+, or ~6000kmh and up. If you’re not within a few degrees of its flight path, the perceived bearing change would be astronomically quick. You would be chasing the missile instead just getting in the way.

How it all actually works/capabilities are super tight hold, unless you work in R&D for Lockheed Martin et al, you would just be guessing. But really, physics is physics at the end of the day :nerd_face: