If you are gambling using an online App you are not doing well from it. The companies who run the online apps kick people who “do well from it” off the apps.
Also, instead of addressing any of the points I actually raised in my post here, you instead made up some nonsense arguments I would never make, pretended that I had made them and then did a poor job of arguing against your own nonsense.
Addiction is a medical condition not a measure of intelligence.
Alcohol is not illegal but is far more heavily regulated than gambling, particularly regarding advertising and sports.
I used to live in the Sandringham, the Evil Star, The Trade Union Club, Strawberry Hills and a dozen other live band venues. I even worked for a while as a roadie. Far from closing them down I want them reopened.
And I do believe that Casinos and online gambling have no net benefit, cause enormous social harm and that the country would be better if they were illegal.
Just because something is illegal it doesn’t make it disappear. Prohibition didn’t work, it just funded organised crime and that money helped to establish Las Vegas.
If you were to ban online gambling here punters would either use illegal bookmakers in Australia or bet on overseas sites via a VPN. They’re not just going to stop gambling.
You then have the issue of what happens if someone is caught gambling online. Are they charged with an offence? That in itself would create similar issues to that seen around people convicted of personal use drug offences.
And the problem that most of us have if you read things correctly is advertising gambling, alcohol or whatever to children.
Incorporating it into sports broadcasts and other places where kids see them normalises it as part of the culture.
It isn’t, if you choose to do some gambling after you are an adult then you can go learn about it. The way that they are advertising gambling is a deliberate ploy to get at younger viewers and get them hooked before they are mature enough to consider the consequences.
It found billions of dollars of annual electronic gaming machine turnover was probably “the proceeds of crime”
NSW Government is planning on rolling out a cashless card for gambling to prevent this, but Labor is against it as they’re saying it may create bigger issues with gamblers. But then, with a cashless card, if it’s government issued, you could set limits on any problem gamblers etc.
I’m not sure how a ‘cashless card’ system is going to be employed?
Do you have to apply to have a Pokie card? How does one go about applying? Is it going to be essentially a license where you have to prove you’re not an ‘addict’?
Or will there be a machine in pubs/clubs, like an Opal machine where you pop your card in, put your money in and then it’s transferred onto the card? That’s not really going to stop money laundering at all.
Honestly don’t think the cashless card system will work at all. People who want to gamble will still find a way to use it.
I mean I think a card system will reduce casual gamblers as opposed to the hardcore . I mean I will probably have a bash on the pokies no more than a couple of times a year if I’m waiting at the pub for mates who are running late etc. I doubt I could be arsed to apply for card. I’d just get another beer instead
It is, because the card would be registered to yourself. The problem with laundering is that you’ll have a handful of individuals walking into a casino or gaming area with a tonne of cash and just “wash” it through pokies.
That sort of behaviour would be easily crosschecked and identified if someone had to top up their pokies card with the same amounts that they would usually launder. The card idea has nothing to do with problem gambling, but everything to do with combating laundering and has been put forward by the NSW Crime Commission.
Yeah I think the key is having on record how much cash the individual put into the machine(s) initially, which means they’d need to account for the source of that cash.
The issue is it contributes $6-7B in taxes to the government.
I mean, we could start taxing companies and banks effectively to replace that shortfall - but that would ultimately result in share prices dropping and mass redundancies to ensure shareholders weren’t crying over spilt milk.
Share prices drop, share prices rise. Somehow capitalism still functions just fine in countries which tax more than we do. In fact, it also functions just fine in the states which currently ban gambling advertising and show a blank screen while they are played to the punters of NSW.
The real barrier to government legislation isn’t that there will be a shortfall in government revenue, it’s the political clout of gambling capital. I’d encourage everyone to read “Power Without Glory”, if you haven’t already.
I mean the argument is that, if the government gets a few billion from pokies etc, that’s based on a certain percentage of people’s losses. If you were to withdraw all that money from the system, that’s a few extra billion that people would be spending on other things…
You are right, gambling wouldn’t disappear if Casinos and online gambling were illegal but the problems associated with these activities would significantly decrease if it were. In particular, the current problem of organised criminals laundering money through Casinos would completely disappear because the whole laundering exercise requires Casinos to be legal for it to work.
There was a time when Casinos were illegal in NSW but that didn’t stop Abe Saffron from running one. But it was a much smaller operation than the current legal casinos, is unlikely to be able to be replicated in a modern world where everyone has a mobile phone in their pocket and, dare I say it, Kings Cross criminals of the 1960s ran their casino far more ethically than 2020s corporate executives.
We’ve announced Labour Connect recruitment services as our match day partner for the derby. Much better. Nobody ever got exploited by their employer thanks to a labour hire company being involved…
so a quick question, who would you see as a good sponsorship partner. Bearing in mind you would have to name a company that could have a fair bit of capital they could use to do so.