And has the best drainage
You’re living in 2015 if you think we could do that in 2025 and beyond for that type of money.
As others have said, look at the Penrith “rebuild” and that’s going to be over $300m.
The state government clearly has one priority when it comes to rebuilding stadiums: making them cash cows for concerts. That’s why there’s such a huge emphasis on IT in everything. In WIN, if you duck away just before a goal, you miss the goal, you don’t get to see it replay on 50 million TVs. Nor do you have synchronisds LED light shows.
Penrith rebuild is $310m for 25k seats. Get rid of the concert-level IT, corporate boxes and price-gouging Hemmes venues, drop it to 12k seats, and you could do the parts we actually need for football for $100m.
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You’re living in a fantasy with your economics.
The lights will be there regardless of the size of the stand, they’re actually needed to play at night, so they’re still apart of the build.
The TVs will be next to nothing in the final build price.
Get rid of the concert-level IT, corporate boxes and price-gouging Hemmes venues
This just shows how out of touch you are. The CEO of Sydney literally talked about how the corporate boxes and facilities at Allianz is where we make a lot of our money and the reason why we would be seeking compensation from the government if we move to a reginal venue, So they’re literally needed at any stadium that would to be built.
No corporate boxes, no sponsorships, no sponsorships, no money!
The price gouging happens at any stadium in Australia, its not a unique “Hemmes” thing. The prices of items, on average, are equivalent to what you’ll get at any other big stadium in Australia,
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The money from concessions goes to the service provider, who pays the stadium a license to be there, from a stadium ownership perspective its a money-maker, not a cost.
Despite the fact the trust hyped up that their “cutting edge” jumbo screens cost $20 million in 2015?
My brother keeps talking about how “they” should build a stadium on top of Central Station. Literally on top.
Then I buy him another beer.
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Believe it or not that was a semi-genuine proposal back when the old SFS was getting demolished.
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Yeah it does… I know it’s strange, but contractors from Western Sydney generally work anywhere in Sydney and around Sydney. They don’t just choose an area and go for it. The market right now is ridiculous. Infrastructure projects are taking up a huge portion of raw materials as well as tradies. Throw in government oversite, regulations and, I can almost guarantee, the shit tonne of asbestos that’s going to be in the build. Then for any new stadium or revamped older stadium, you’re going to be dealing with the locals that will stop you wherever they can.
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I can also assure you they work in Wollongong. Our developers are local, mostly, and that’s it. Our labour costs are the same as yours and our land value is increasingly going in the same direction. The only thing different is that our local government has less power so the developers get away with cutting more corners, which is how we’ve ended up with a whole fucking tower getting built next to the hospital during the lockdowns that is unsafe to live in and sits empty.
Not a serious suggestion from me to do this, but Hindmarsh Stadium would just about fit over the throat of tracks into the InterCity platforms without having to do anything to the Bradfield-era flyovers for the suburban tracks (platforms 16-23) which I believe are heritage listed and would be problematic. However you now also have the Metro station box immediately adjacent underneath platforms 12-14 (there is no 15 now). Wentworth Park or ES Marks or one of the other Moore Park playing fields remain our only real options I think, unfortunately. Redfern Oval ship has sailed and I doubt the Central station throat could ever happen.
On the costs discussion, yeah I am probably massively underestimating potential cost hikes since Wollongong’s stand was built. Brookvale Oval’s northern stand seating 3000 cost $30m in 2021 including a centre of excellence building development; the stand looks like it has a fairly low rake but has a very nice roof.
That isn’t what you were talking agout in your previous post.
And stadiums aren’t built by someone random builder based in western Sydney. They are built by tier 1 foreign owned multinationals.
Where the workforce comes from to do that is irrelevant because they are simply told what to do.
Request EOI among 20,000 members & anyone else willing to pay each $1000 per year for 3 years we could have that boutique stadia with the medium size replays screen. Think about it thats only like giving up 50 half chicken boxes at oporto’s if my maths right.
Labor costs outside of the capital cities are actually a lower. It’s generally proportional to the cost of living and the amount of money in the area. The only bigger cost is transport for materials comparing rural to towns to cities. Plus towns near quarries etc won’t feel the cost as much.
CFMEU needs to get in on this therefore cheapie stadiums do not exist in this hilarious country. State and Federal donations aren’t for nothing you know. This is all a moot point.
The SFS does not give a flying fuck about Sydney FC, that’s a given.
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Except this whole argument started because a grandstand was built on the cheap in Wollongong, AKA union Town, 15 years ago, because we’re a safe Labor seat and the government didn’t need to bother with any bells and whistles to sway our vote.
The two things go hand in hand. The expense on ICT in our “world class stadium” is all down to having concert level tech, and eardrum-rupturing half time entertainment is the result. There’s only one way to have the concerts and quality football hand in hand in the one venue, and that’s Tottenham style fully retractable pitch.
My sister was recently given an estimate of $4000/msq down here for a house build. It’s no cheaper than most of Sydney.
That same CFMEU was critical in ensuring the Olympics venues were delivered on time and on budget.
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I’m not at all convinced that stadium gigs use the stadium tech, they have their own self-contained audio/visual solution that travels with them.
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Things very much change over 25 years…