They continued to use them after the pagers? 
So the pagers are apparently no longer produced, but knockoffs are made. The company that owns the license is saying that they were made by a Hungarian company. The Hungarian company is claiming theyāre not a producer but rather a go between for supplying them. Iām assuming whatās happened, is that the Israeliās found out there was going to be a purchase through the Hungarian company. The Hungarian company thought they were talking to Taiwan, but instead Mossad has inserted themselves in between, so each entity didnāt realise they werenāt talking with each other.
Itās something not to dissimilar from what weāve actually seen happen even here. One of our instrument suppliers was contacted by a valid email address from one of the Uniās. They had ALL the correct details, account numbers, documents etc. and put in an order for a warehouse in Perth. No red flags as it was all standard procedure. A million dollars of instruments were purchased and delivered to the warehouse in Perth, only to then disappear. When the normal uni contacts were hit up, they knew nothing about it.
Maybe Mossad told our government that they could get us a shipment of pagers if we didnāt vote right.
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Holy shit.
Theres now reports that solar panels on the roofs of Hezbollah members are exploding.
Is there nothing the Simpsons canāt predict?
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Probably a little less likely that beer is coming out of the chimney in this case.
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That would explain why weāve been voting the way Israel wants us to since pagers were a thingā¦
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NY Times now reporting that the European company selling the pagers is an Israeli front that has been operating from before 2022 with legit clients selling legit (ie non exploding) pagers. Only the ones sold to Hezbollah were booby trapped.
By all appearances, B.A.C. Consulting was a Hungary-based company that was under contract to produce the devices on behalf of a Taiwanese company, Gold Apollo. In fact, it was part of an Israeli front, according to three intelligence officers briefed on the operation. They said at least two other shell companies were created as well to mask the real identities of the people creating the pagers: Israeli intelligence officers.
B.A.C. did take on ordinary clients, for which it produced a range of ordinary pagers. But the only client that really mattered was Hezbollah, and its pagers were far from ordinary. Produced separately, they contained batteries laced with the explosive PETN, according to the three intelligence officers.
The pagers began shipping to Lebanon in the summer of 2022 in small numbers, but production was quickly ramped up after Mr. Nasrallah denounced cellphones.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah.html
So, genuine question, why the outcry about this being a humanitarian issue? Is it because it wasnāt clear where the pagers were when detonated, so a risk to civilians? I know a 9 year old died which is pretty horrific, presumable standing at their dadās side, and a lot of injuries.
Otherwise, it seems pretty targeted, that only Hezbollah operatives would be carrying these, and so would largely affect genuine military operatives and therefore āfairā targets if theyāre coordinating strikes into Israel itself. And surely a pretty limited size explosion. Or do Hezbollah also have a non military wing who were targeted (but then why the requirements for secret comms?).
Apart from the brutality of it, geez Mossad have some tricks up their sleeve. Still, if the international community doesnāt like this action, itās almost like they shouldāve done more when Israel where bombing refugee camps in Gaza, repeatedly striking aid convoys, or performing raids in the West Bankā¦
Firstly, itās a war crime to make civilian objects into potential booby traps/weapons. Weapons of war should be clearly marked and targeted and only be used against military targets.
Secondly, there was no way they can guarantee that every single one of those pagers went to Hezbollah. There could have been some guy making a few bucks on the side selling it to civilians, others could be lost, someone could have been standing right next to an individual etc. Thereās no way you can 100% guarantee that they were only in the hands of operatives.
Israel has constantly claimed civilian losses are always acceptable as their killing militants. Problem is the civilian losses are constantly bigger than militant losses
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I do agree, but to be fair there was also outcry about these things being a humanitarian issue. Our media just didnāt publish them very much, but it is now. Probably because of our much bigger Lebanese diaspora than our Palestinian oneā¦
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Further to my comment, Ukraine is reporting that there were also explosions in Russia with 70 injured. They suspect Hezbollah may have passed on the same pagers to Russian contacts. The Iranian Ambassador to Lebanon was also reportedly injured
I think the outcry here is also because the victims are in other sovereign states, not occupied territory (at least according to us and Israelās allies).
Plot twist, Russia declares war on Israel and the USA doesnāt know what to do.
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Supporting Syria & Egypt for years with their hardware is pretty much that.
They fought ISIS in Syria interestingly enough.
Russian and US have clashed multiple times through Wagner in Syria. Pretty sure Wagner made a run on a US base and were completely wiped out in the ensuing hour as they were pummelled by aircraft.
Edit: it was a group of US commandos being encircled by Wagner. They held out for 4 hours before air support and HIMARS entered the region, after which it took 45 minutes for the US to wipe out the attacking force.
Reports in Lebanese media that Israel has used an F-35 in a strike on Beirut.
The tragic lesson Israel failed to learn yet again on October 7 is that peace cannot be premised on the subjugation of a people. Violence invariably returns. Indeed, every attempt to cover it up ā be it with the increasingly fascistic policies of the Israeli government, the ever-increasing restrictive conditions of the occupation, or the hysteria of the Zionist lobby in the diaspora in response to the mildest expression of solidarity with Palestinians ā only reveals the terrible and inevitable persistence of violence.
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