First Gear-Grind of the new Forum

All this wall to wall crap about some concert happening in Melbourne.

I wouldn’t say it necessarily grinds my gears maybe bemuses my gears

It’s all of the puns in the reporting that annoys me.
It’s like the reporters are trying to out do each other with the number of songs that they can shoe horn into one report.

The only issue I have is that the only song I know is the Shake it off 1. I don’t understand most of their puns unfortunately

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Two of my children are paid up members of that cult Even my oldest who winds up his siblings about absolutely everything won’t go near taking the piss out of her lest they kill him.

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It was always so confusing to me as why so many young girls were into country music before I realised she doesn’t do that anymore

I find it bemusing the level of hate she gets from people who likely have never even listened to her songs.

She’s great at what she does, has some decent tunes, is an incredible songwriter and has a hell of a knack for building and maintaining a fanbase. Kudos to her.

Very, very few artists (either current or historical) can sell the number of tickets she can. That has to be respected.

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I don’t hate her, I think she’s done well for herself. In fact there’s a whole bunch of artists I don’t really hate unless they’re very much underserving. What I hate is the myriad of fans that act like she’s the greatest thing since sliced bread and treat her like a god.

It’s basically Beatle mania for the 2020s. Except it’s not boomers this time.

Which means millennials and gen x appear to have missed the need to fawn heavily over a single act. Gen z and boomers are basically the same breed of stupid.

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The fans of a thing are always the worst part of the thing.

See football as a perfect example.

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But why hate them? No need to yuck someone else’s yum.

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Because they’re there. They exist, they go crazy, they get in the news and everything else. All the while people that are actually making meaningful changes in the world and contributing in a way that actually changes people’s lives for ever are ignored.

Swifties and F1 fans; I don’t understand you, you come out of the woodwork and disappear just as quick, I’ve never met one personally and don’t know where they come from. But you’re having fun, so you do you.

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These are, mostly, young girls who are likely in quite an important phase of identity formation who are idolising a successful, clearly talented, independent woman who, as I understand it, speaks out again important issues such as misogyny and gets some loopy conservatives all worked into a misguided moral panic. The inconvenience this causes the rest of us must be minor at best. I suspect Swift does make/inspire meaningful change in many young peoples lives… I was certainly influenced for the better by people like Cobain and De La Rocha at a young age… who I know incited moral panic in many people.

I don’t listen to Swift, like many, I could name barely one song, but I think to ‘protest’ against musicians or artists for not making meaningful changes to the world or their fans seems shortsighted to me

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I’m old and I’m allowed to hate youth culture!

In saying that, yes it may influence their lives etc. but not even to the same extent as doctors and scientists working on actual life changing medicines etc.

Both my girls have been fans for 8-9 years, I took them to see her last time she was here and all 3 of us had the best time. I hit father of the year status by getting them tickets for the upcoming Sydney show. I’m not going simply because of the price.

I like a lot of different music and am an unabashed pop music fan, I like some of her songs, she’s very, very talented as an artist and songwriter, and in relative terms, a great role model for young girls through to young women. She’s sincere in her beliefs and talks the talk when it comes to female empowerment, most other female stars pay the concept lip service because it sells tracks, tickets and merch.

She’s a bit bland and ‘safe’ for my tastes but I have no issue with my kids idolising her and seeing her as someone to emulate.

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The fact that she wedged slavering Trumpers into going for the 49ers is delicious :yum:

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My daughter loves her… and she is inoffensive enough not to rile me up.

Saying that, I don’t need to know her every movement she is in the country.

I have a memory of this kind of thing after match pub conversation with someone similar to your situation.

As was said on thus night, i appreciate the disposition of the person i was chatting with and understand it.

Much love to that guy.

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I actually think this is what annoys me the most. There’s currently live coverage on Sydney Morning Herald on the leadup to the concert. Even watching the Superbowl, it was infuriating the number of time it cut to her

12 shots totalling 53 seconds of coverage out of 4 hours and 20 minutes.

0.34% of the duration of the coverage, and about once every 25 minutes.

You need counselling if that’s infuriating for you.