It's OK to be White and other dogwhistles - the Australian politics thread

Absolutely golden that they tried to rip off the branding. It’s like a sketch.

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So one of old mate Clive Palmers Trumpet of Patriots YouTube ads is an exact rip off from one of his election ads back in 2019.

It’s the ad where he claims the Chinese are taking over Australia, via a WA airstrip and could theoretically control all of WAs resources.

Now what makes this a cultural masterpiece, is that this airstrip in bumfucknowhere WA, is OWNED BY CLIVE PALMER!!! The stupid fatty mcfuckface leased the land to the Chinese.

You just couldn’t make this shit up. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Clive’s Arse Trumpets are going to win zero seats and lose millions of dollars. Lock it in.

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So it’s just a tax write off ?

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Well in my local seat of Flinders, the Trumpet of the Pants candidate has announced he’s disendorsing himself and withdrawing, because of their how-to-votes. Apparently they insisted on putting the two major parties last everywhere, with the incumbent whoever that is actually last. Which means that in multiple seats, they’ve put Greens and Teals above Liberals. In our seat they’ve got the Teal 3rd and Liberals 7th (After Labor in 6). You could not make this shit up

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Mums 4 Refugees

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Rattan Virk, Liberal candidate for the western Sydney seat of Greenway dumped her directorship of a company just weeks before it was audited by the Australian Tax Office and was later found to owe millions of dollars in GST for transactions that occurred while she was a director.

Rattan Virk was the director of a company that flipped a property in Tarneit, Victoria, making an $11 million gain distributed to investors before going into liquidation when the ATO issued it a $2.3 million fine.

Virk and her husband, Jagvinder Virk, run the India Australia Strategic Alliance, a business organisation that has hosted Opposition Leader Peter Dutton at numerous functions.

Have we won yet?

I don’t see a problem here.

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Even with the latest polling swinging well to Labor on a 2pp, the seat by seat breakdown still doesn’t look like a majority government. Most recent protection is top and the bottom one giving Labor a majority is a full year ago. It’s still pretty unlikely we’ll have a clear winner on election night unless some seats change wildly.

Dutton really seems to be doubling down on calling Albanese a liar? Does that work for anyone?

Along with a few other choice phrases, seemed to work for my ex-wife.

About what though? The power price thing?

There’s a really important distinction that is almost never made in politics - the distinction between saying that you believe something will happen that doesn’t eventuate (or won’t happen and does) and saying that something will or won’t happen when you know that to be false.

Lying is only the second one. Not knowing the future isn’t in the same basket unless you’re relying in your belief on something that is plainly implausible to the point where if you’re not lying to your audience you’re lying to yourself.

The claims are re power prices, but also re lying about being willing to form a “coalition” government with the Greens, and re falling off a stage in a debate or something IDGAF about.

In more important news, Redmayne has apparently endorsed his local Labor member

Power prices - prices didn’t move as expected, in large part driven by general inflation issues

Coalition - that’s no lie for sure; there’s no way anyone is doing a 2010 style agreement. They might agree on confidence and supply.

Falling off a stage - I can’t find a quote, but I read commentary saying that he downplayed it and that that’s being spun up into “Albo lies about falling off stage - if he’ll lie about this, what else will he lie about”

I mean, if that’s what they’ve got to work with, whatever. But they all feel like magic eye stuff - they’re things you see if you’re looking for them already and if you’re not looking for them it’s just a bunch of nothing much.

The Libs do have a pretty sharp ad out with two blokes sitting in a pub saying “did he make prices come down? did he make houses cheaper?”, etc., and if they had managed to make the last three weeks about that rather than whatever landmine they managed to put in front of themselves on a given day they’d be in a much better position than they are.

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Libs have just crashed a third truck in three days, can’t make this shit up

https://www.instagram.com/p/DIxztdMShV_/?igsh=MXBrZzUxZW5oc3ExMA==

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Ok, I agree with you completely, but voters like my Dad have fallen for this one hook, line and sinker. When I point out it’s worse in the UK (which he knows as an expat) and that’s to do with the global gas market since the war in Ukraine broke out and the answer is price controls on our exports and a reservation policy, he just bristles. I don’t want to over-sell the impact, but some of these things are dog-whistles for people already willing to hear them.

The moral of the story is, don’t promise something will change unless you know you can legislate it. Especially in this country, everyone is primed to believe pollies are liars already.

In better news, my mum has told the family that she’s considering to vote Labor for the first time since before Gough.

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Maybe LNP members should start working from home.

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Agree, and this is a lesson clearly learnt this time around, which leads to claims Albo’s being shifty and non-committal…

Just used this to sort out my vote. Not perfect but better than nothing, especially with the crazies.

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Geez I’m sick of hearing stuff about preferences and which parties preferencing who and why for house of reps seats.

What is the point? Why do how to vote cards exist? Surely it’s as simple as “vote for me, don’t care who comes next”. Aside from the very occasional triangular race, at the end of the day all that matters is which of the top two you put higher. And then financing is done on first preference votes. So what’s the point?

Like if the libs preference Hanson over palmer, they’re all voting for libs in the end anyway? Who cares if Labor preferences libs or greens higher? Is it just prestige that the minors can say they’re more similar to libs in return for maybe convincing 4 of Hanson voters that the libs are better than the labor?

And if there is benefit in a 3 way seat for say Labor to preference libs over greens to get to the final 2, then that advantage is lost if you do it at a national level.

Senate aside, It just seems so much bigger than it is useful for. Why not just say vote us, who cares what you do with the rest. Or is it just the media drumming up stories…