Round 4 - Adelaide vs Sydney FC - 11/11/23

Possibly a good example of a mashed up Aglocised name there - Worts. Presumably originally German but the W is pronounced as a W rather than a V and the O closer to an English U. A little from column A, and a little from column B.

In any case this is probably the best solution. Preferred pronunciation from the players mouths.

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Oh yeah, I don’t think people should be compelled to completely change their whole voice to another language or make every tone or sound (which they may not even be familiar with) exact a la Lucy or (to a lesser extent?) Les.

Trying to be familiar with how it should sound (to the extent your ear allows) and trying to make the best approximation in the language you’re speaking is more than fine IMO.

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Fuck we used to have a lot of Macos in the natio teamo!

What about with common ā€œEnglishā€ names in different accents? I have this disagreement with my mother. She pronounces my cousin’s husband’s name, Sean (which, yes, is Irish), like a Canadian. I insist she doesn’t have to add a North American accent when she says it. I say Sean like I’d usually say it.

Do I have to pronounce Connors the way Shae Connors says it when I’m referring to her, or do I drop the R in the common Aussie way?

Effort is the main thing. Sometimes people look at a long ā€œforeignā€ name and make a measley attempt to say a jumble of sounds with the same first and last letter*. At least break down the syllables!

*The family name Ng is NOT a good example

My name is relatively common but I have the more uncommon spelling. I will semi-regularly get ā€œlayā€ instead of ā€œleeā€ - commonly (though not always) from people for whom English is a second language. If it’s someone who I’m going in interact with regularly I’ll correct them - if not I just let it go as I don’t really care. If they’re just not familiar with the spelling or the pronunciation I don’t take it as an offense.

That’s not to say that there aren’t fuckwits who are willfully ignorant or malicious with that sort of thing.

I do always try to use a preferred or proper pronunciation for any names.

Edit: As an aside I also get the occasional situation when someone’s only seen my name before and assumes I’m female because of the spelling.

Ive just commented on one of his instagram posts, asking him pronunciation

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Also, my first name is Pawel, peonounced Pav-ew. Ive had had pronunciations from the correct way to, Pavel, Pawel, Paul, Pav, etc i just take to introducing myself as Paul, but i generally keep my surname the Polish way to pronounce

I, unfortunately, learnt how to pronounce Leigh when I first heard the story of Leigh Leigh, the teen raped and murdered up in Newy on the late 80s.

Plus, Janet Leigh, though her daughter’s middle(?) name is Lee.

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At times overseas I’ve just used my middle name to make it simpler for everyone involved.

We anglicised the pronunciation of our last name when we migrated some 35+ years ago when I was too young to know better. More recently I’ve noticed people asking, and particularly when dealing with people from my area of the world they just get it right a noticeable amount of the time.

I kind of like it, even if I’m completely used to the Anglo version and introduce myself that way.

Ask, and do what they want is the simple answer for me. The more complex answer is something like the above, which is kind of difficult to work out without knowing someone.

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We’ve got a a Jorge at work. I feel like a right cunt when I accidentally call him George. Being a genuinely awesome dude he doesn’t give a fuck, but it’s just one of those things - getting someone’s name correct is just basic respect.

That just reminded me of a satirical blog claiming to be Jorge Lorenzo’s diary. I can pronounce Jorge because of MotoGP.

I automatically pronounce Henry like I’m referring to Thierry.

James can leave me confused because of Rodriquez.

I don’t bother asking non Portuguese speakers (looking at you Brazilians too!! ;)) to pronounce any of my name that way. They won’t get any of my name right and is easier just to go with the Aussie pronunciation. I’m more fussed with people being jerks than hitting accents they can’t do, and even if they can get it right, it sounds weird in the English context.

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My surname’s Polish and I’ve always pronounced it the Polish way.

Not too bothered tbh when most people pronounce with an English pronunciation.

My daughter though has a double-barrelled surname, with her mum’s Italian surname the other half of her name. She’s in for a tough life pronouncing her name! :joy:

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People named Siobhan can GGF.

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Hey I thought I was the only Pole here!

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My wife is Polish and thinks it’s ridiculously weird whenever I introduce myself as Paul. Anyone in our Polish extended circles will refer to my name properly. In saying that, when I started my current job, I was planning on referring myself as Paul, but my boss is Ukrainian so he introduced me with the proper pronunciation, so now it’s pretty much half half across the workplace. It’s funny when new people are talking about me as Paul and Pawel and sometimes don’t realise it’s the same person

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One of my best mates is Serbian, and his names Petar. Pronounced Pet-Ar, but to most he’s Peter. In our social circle, he’s better known as ā€˜fuckwit’.

His dad’s name is Slobodan, but when he came to Australia he went by ā€˜Bob’. They didn’t speak a word of English when they arrived, but he’s affectionately known as Slobby Bob.

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